embodiment

listening to : jackson : June Carter & Johnny Cash

eating: jamba : fresh and easy berry MEDLEY (ha)

last night's forum was amazing.

Patricia Andujo- African American Studies and Literature

Warren Brown- Psychology, Fuller Theological Seminary

Connie Brehm-Nursing

Bill Catling-Art

Monica Ganas- Theater, Film, Television

Guy Kinnear- Art

Carole Lambert - English

Michael Mata- World Vision, National Director for Tools for Transformation

Bob Mullins- Old Testament and Near Eastern Studies

Rich Slimbach - Global Studies, Sociology

Kay Smith- New Testament

Jacquelyn Winston- Historical Theology

Young Lee Hertig- Global Studies

Its one thing to take a class from one of these professors and soak up their knowledge about a subject such as the first 5 (500 haha) years of christianity or the holocaust or the history of typography....

but to listen to all of them discuss a complex theological concept such as embodiment... 

to respect each other but argue from their perspectives ...

i love my school.

i'd go to this every week if they had it.

Craig Keene is amazing... and I think i'm going to pursue going to this group every time...

What we ate : homemade bread and honey/ apples/ oranges/ carrots/ celery.

if the CAF fed me this... i would always be satisfied.

PREMISE:

In the early 21st century, we seem to have fully adopted ancient Greek Orphism concerning "the soul" : human beings have bodies,, but are the souls temporarily housed in them.  Our conversation will be one which problematizes this notion and transgresses disciplinary boundaries so that we may understand the various dimensions of human beings as bodies all the way through and the implications of " embodied" ---- rather than  "disembodied " --life.

notes:

wholism vs. dualism

are we nonmaterial souls trapped in bodies? (descartes, augustine = neoplateism)

Questions:

What is the relationship between our brains (neuroscience) and our souls... 

dependent. soulishness.

BERRY:  soul/ body/ community/ world ---> contempt for the body leads to the contempt of others bodies : depression/ self inflicted pain/ selfishness/ slavery/ genocide

Hebrew Bible: Gen.2 God is originally a potter/ animals and humans hold the breath of life

----> argued point:   pain (closest male understanding to birth)      WILL I EVER RECIEVE PHYSICAL SALVATION?

----> rebuttal: Alister McIntire: An understanding of embodiment gives the Church more understanding of disabled bodies... because we ALL are disabled in some way.

global studies: china's word for spirit is "chi" which also means "breath."

---->ties to THE LAND. (reminder to view the GARDEN this week)

the land and I are insepperable.  Interdependent paradigm.

-----> early church martyrs understood this idea of enduring physical pain to further understand or express their devotion.

this however became a way to identify heretics.

PLATONISM: what it brings Augustine in 400 AD - innovation: bodies w/ souls was originally disliked because it was too strange

-> looking at the Bishops role to understand this

---->Understand that our pace does not allow for feeling breezes or tending our INNER GARDEN. (robert blind)  gives us understanding of natural rythms which is a great purpose for our bodies.

in art: differentiating between social classes : hairy and dirty (workers and not intellectuals), clean and hairless (intellectuals)

problems of looking at those in the dirt experiencing the moanist views : viewed without souls by the dualists.

We are STILLL dealing with the problem of the fall : BE LIKE GOD: escape our humanity...

do we ever bother to wonder if Jesus' being in a body was a pleasure?  Not just a lowering from the spiritual but enjoyable?

EUCHARIST point.

sacred space, cycle of the seasons, cultural holidays

RELIGION: embodied practice of what it is to be the body of christ

(forget the mantra : its not religion its a relationship... thats stupid ahhaha)

African Christians don't emphasize belief but "following"

Maslows Heirarchy of Needs: we do not ascend to spiritual (beauty, ethical, moral contemplation) until basics are met (safety, food)

---> Auschweitz : "NOW we take care of our bodies"  (people have to have basic needs met before they even contemplate suicide.... they must be fed before they try to die)

(holocaust examples sound extreme but the people Jesus went to were closer to this than we understand.... exiles, beaten, shamed prostitues)

we are to be the scaffolding of others.

we exist dependent on the scaffolding of our community.

(prima levy)

where does the garden exist on the inside if you cannot tend it because of the bad on the outside?

THE DISRUPTION of the garden : evil.

Sexuality and impregnation?